Congressional Record: May 1, 2002 (Senate)
Page S3598-S3601


                                 TRADE

  Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, we are about to have the chairman of the
Finance Committee and the ranking member of the Finance Committee offer
a managers' package to the Andean trade bill that will be the pending
business when we complete morning business.
  No doubt some who watch the proceedings will be confused by what is
happening because we have an Andean trade bill that will apparently be
amended by something called trade adjustment assistance and, more
importantly, will be amended by something called trade promotion
authority. Trade Promotion Authority is a euphemism for fast-track
trade authority. One would expect fast-track trade authority would be
brought to the floor by itself. It is a very big policy issue. Yet it
is coming in the form of a managers' package. One amendment is a part
of the managers' package. I regret that, but that is how we have to
deal with it.
  I will speak about trade generally and explain why I do not support
trade promotion authority or so-called fast track. I did not support
giving fast-track trade authority to President Clinton, and he didn't
get it. And I don't support giving fast-track trade authority to this
President, and he should not have it.
  Let me describe for a moment why I feel that way. This is what the
Constitution says about international trade. Article I, section 8,
says: The Congress shall have the power . . . To regulate commerce with
foreign nations.
  Not the President, not the trade ambassador, not some trade
negotiator, but the U.S. Congress.
  Fast track does away with that. Under fast track, Congress handcuffs
its hands behind its back and says to a President, go negotiate a trade
agreement somewhere and bring it back to the Congress, and we guarantee
none of us will be able to offer an amendment, no matter how flawed the
deal might be. Fast track means expedited procedures by which a trade
treaty comes through the Congress guaranteeing no one has the ability
to offer an amendment.
  It is undemocratic. It does not make sense. Why would Congress, being
told by the U.S. Constitution what their objection and their
responsibilities are, decide to cede those responsibilities to the
President? It does not make sense to me.
  There is an old saying, there is no education in the second kick of a
mule. Having been through this a couple of times and been burned badly,
Congress ought to understand when a bad trade agreement is negotiated
and brought back. It is very hard for the Congress to turn down a
negotiated trade agreement. What happens is the Congress

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embraces the agreement in total and rants about the specific provisions
in the agreement that injure specific industries in the country because
they are unfair, but no one can do anything about it.
  We had a speech by Trade Representative Zoellick about 5 or 6 months
ago. He was giving a speech in Chicago. Speaking to a business group in
Chicago, Zoellick described lawmakers and lobbyists who oppose trade
promotion authority, fast track, a bill sponsored by House Ways and
Means Committee Chairman Bill Thomas, and said they are "xenophobes
and isolationists." That is a thoughtless way to debate this issue--
"xenophobes and isolationists."

  A colleague of mine yesterday, in discussing this, said something
with which I strongly agree. This country ought not ever hang its head
with respect to the issue of trade. This country can, should, and will
be proud of its record in trade. We have led the world in opening
markets, in deciding we want to lead the world in expanded trade, in
freer trade and in fair trade. That has always been what this country
has done. No one ought to point to this country with respect to trade
issues. We have open markets, we have free trade, we have always been
willing to compete almost anywhere, any time, under any set of
circumstances. We have nothing at all to be ashamed of. We have a great
deal to be proud of with respect to international trade.
  We are now moving into a different area. Globalization is here. We
are not going to turn back the clock. Globalization is part of our
lives. The question isn't whether to embrace it; the question is: What
are the rules for globalization? What are the rules for the new global
economy? Are there rules of fair play for admission to the American
marketplace?
  We have had men and women die on the streets in this country who were
walking the streets and demonstrating for the right to form labor
unions early in the last century, demanding the right of workers to
form labor unions. This country now has free labor unions. We had
people marching in the street to demand safe workplaces. Now we have
rules and laws that require workplaces be safe for workers. We had
people marching in the streets to demand child labor laws, to take the
10- and 12-year-old kids out of the coal mines and the factories. Now
we have laws in this country with respect to child labor. We had people
marching in the streets in America trying to prohibit those who were
producing chemicals from and dumping them into our water and our air
and polluting our environment. Now we have clean air and clean water
laws, and we have prohibitions against those who pollute our
environment. These fights have been over the conditions of production.
  So, in a global economy, what is the admission to the American
marketplace, where we have already had the debate and made the
decisions about those issues, the issues of a fair wage, a safe
workplace, the right to organize, the prohibition against polluting?
What is the admission to our marketplace? I ask the question, Is it
fair trade for someone overseas in some foreign land who hires 12-year-
old kids, pays them 12 cents an hour, and puts them in a factory 12
hours a day, to make a product they ship to Pittsburgh, Fargo, or Los
Angeles? Is that fair trade for the men and women of the American
workforce to compete against? Twenty-cent-an-hour labor by 12-year-old
kids? Twelve-cent-an-hour labor by 10-year-old kids? Is it fair to
compete against a plant overseas that can dump its chemicals in the
water, its pollutants in the air, hire underage children, have unsafe
workplaces, and prohibit their workers the right to organize? Is that
fair competition for American workers?
  Will those who want to produce in our world simply pole-vault over
all of those difficult issues we have already addressed in our
country--a safe workplace, child labor, a fair income, the right to
organize, a prohibition against polluting the air and water? Can they
just pole-vault over all of that and go to a country where they do not
have to abide by any of that. They can hire kids, dump chemicals in the
water and the air, fail to pay a living wage, and do nothing to have a
safe workplace. They can produce whatever product they want, and ship
it to the American marketplace.

  That is not fair trade. It is not fair to the American worker. It is
not fair competition. It is not fair to American businesses trying to
compete in those circumstances.
  Fast-track authority will be voted on here in the next week or so, 2
weeks perhaps. We are told it is sweetened and made less bitter by
something called trade adjustment assistance. That means help for
people who have lost their jobs. It's ironic, isn't it, that we are
told these new trade agreements they want to negotiate will be good for
our country, but they are already making plans for all the people that
will lose their jobs because of these new trade agreements?
  I guarantee that there is not one Member of the Senate who will lose
his or her job because of a trade negotiation overseas. Our negotiators
will rush overseas, if we give this authority. They will close the room
and in secret negotiate a trade deal, and I guarantee there not one
Member of the Senate will have his job directly threatened by that
trade agreement. It is just the folks who work in the factories, the
plants, on the factory floors who are producing products that cannot
compete with unfair competition.
  I am not someone who believes we ought to put up a wall or we ought
to promote less trade. I believe we ought to have essentially free
markets and expanded trade. But I demand fair trade. I just demand fair
trade. If we do not have fair trade, then this country ought to have
the backbone, the muscle, and the strength to say to other countries:
You must open your markets to this country's products and the products
you send to this country must be produced under conditions that are
fair.
  Whenever the subject of trade comes up, a lot of people are quick to
classify the different views into two camps: the larger, expansive view
of people who are smart and get it and see over the horizon and
understand the global economy; that is, the people who support fast
track; and the others are xenophobes, who are stooges, who don't
understand any of this, have blinders on and cannot see over the
horizon. They oppose fast track.
  Those who write the editorials, those who are lobbying on behalf of
fast track, those who make comments like Mr. Zoellick, they create
these thoughtless divisions of those who get it and those who don't;
those who are smart and those who are not. Of course that is not the
issue at all. Let me describe what the issue is.
  I talked about the issues we fought about in this country for years.
There are 2.9 million children in Brazil under the age of 15 who are
working, working in manufacturing plants and other circumstances that
will produce products that will come to our marketplace. Is it fair
trade to ask someone from Pittsburgh, trying to raise a family, being
paid a decent wage, working in a factory that requires a safe
workplace--is it fair trade to ask that person to compete against a 12-
year-old? The legal minimum age for workers in Peru is 12. That is the
legal working age.
  So which of our workers and in which of our States do we want to have
to compete against 12-year-olds? Is it fair to have the product of 12-
year-olds sit on America's store shelves so the consumers can get a
good deal, buying cheap products, because 12-year-olds in some foreign
land produced it?

  And shouldn't foreign markets be open to our products, which are
produced under decent working conditions. Every time I come to the
floor, I cite the example of the Korean auto market. I know the Korean
automobile industry chokes on it because I have gotten several letters
from them now. I use this as an example of fair trade because there is
just such a lopsided trade imbalance with Korea when it comes to cars.
  Last year Korea shipped 620,000 Korean cars to the United States. Do
you know how many American cars we were able to sell in Korea? We sold
2,800.
  Let me say that again. Korea shipped us 620,000 Korean automobiles
and we were able to sell 2,800 U.S. automobiles in Korea. Do you know
why? Because the Koreans don't want to buy U.S. automobiles--I am
talking about the Korean Government. They don't want Koreans to
purchase U.S. automobiles, and they put a series of obstacles up

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against us selling cars in Korea. Fair? Of course it is not fair. Is
there somebody going to do something about that? No. Our trade
negotiators are not interested in solving problems--only in negotiating
new agreements.
  Will Rogers once said that the United States of America has never
lost a war and never won a conference. He surely must have been
thinking of our trade negotiators because they lose almost immediately
when they begin negotiating.
  If I had some feeling somebody, somewhere, someplace was going to
solve a problem or two here or there, then I would maybe have a little
confidence. But I could stand here and recite problem after problem.
There is the unfair trade involving wheat from Canada, that comes here
from a monopoly called the Canadian Wheat Board that would be illegal
in this country, taking money out of the pockets of our family farmers,
and nothing is being done about it.
  How about Brazilian sugar that undermines our sugar program? The
sugar is shipped to Canada, where it is packed into molasses. The
molasses are shipped to the United States, where the sugar is taken
out, and the molasses are shipped back to Canada. This is just a
blatantly unfair trade practice, yet nobody is doing anything about it.
  Or let's talk about barriers to U.S. exports of high-fructose corn
syrup to Mexico. The Mexicans said they would let it into their
country. But they will not.
  Every pound of beef going from this country to Japan has a 38.5-
percent tariff, every single pound of American beef. We ought to get
more T-bones into Japan. Our negotiators thought it was a triumph to
get Japanese tariffs on U.S. beef reduced to 38.5-percent. Is that a
success? I don't think so.
  I hardly dare begin to speak of China. The problems of getting access
to the Chinese marketplace are legion.
  Wheat flour--try to sell wheat flour to the European Union. There is
a 78-percent tariff on wheat flour to the European Union, so our
farmers can't get wheat flour into the European Union. In fact, we
can't get U.S. beef into the European Union because it is produced with
hormones. The European press has the Europeans thinking we produce cows
with two heads.
  Do you know what happened? What happened was interesting. It is
typical of, in my judgment, our weak-kneed trade approach. Because
Europe has caused us a problem on beef, we took the EU to the World
Trade Organization. For once, the World Trade Organization actually
ruled in our favor. They ruled that we could take action against
Europe. Do you know what action we took against Europe? We slap them
with penalties on truffles, goose liver, and Roquefort cheese. That
will sure scare the Devil out of the European Union. America is going
to take action against their truffles or goose liver.

  The fact is, our country is unwilling to stand up and exhibit the
backbone necessary to say to other countries: This marketplace is the
only one like it in the world. There is no substitute for it. We want
it open to you. But understand this: The American marketplace is open
to your products but your marketplace must be open to ours. No, it is
not open to your products if you are going to ship us prison labor
production and, yes, we have had some of those goods coming from
Chinese prisons to be put on the store shelves of this country. That is
unfair. Our marketplace isn't open to you if you are going to lock
kids, 10- and 12-year-old kids in plants producing carpets. That is not
fair trade. Our markets will be open to you, but you must open your
markets to us.
  Having said all of this, those who might listen will say: All right.
So this is someone who doesn't like trade.
  Nonsense. I think trade is very important. I think expanded trade is
very important. It is just that our country has to think differently.
  For the first 25 years after the Second World War, our trade was all
foreign policy. It didn't have anything to do with economic policy. We
could tie one hand behind our back and beat anybody in the world. We
were the best, the strongest, and the fact is, we could out-trade
anybody under any set of circumstances. So for 25 years our trade
policy was foreign policy. But the second 25 years after the Second
World War things are different. Our competitors are shrewd and tough
competitors--Japan, Europe, Canada, China, and others. The fact is they
have grown to be shrewd, tough international competitors, and our trade
policy can't be foreign policy anymore. It must be tough, hard-nosed
economic policy that requires of them what we demand of ourselves.
Regrettably, as a country have not been willing to do that. We are
always interested in negotiating the next agreement, notwithstanding
the problems that we have created in the past agreements. We just can't
continue to do that.
  My understanding is that we are going to have a managers' amendment
offered. When the ranking member and the chairman show up, I will be
happy to give up the floor. But I am going to offer an amendment,
hopefully this afternoon--the first amendment on Trade Promotion
Authority. I have a number of amendments, as do many of my colleagues
on this issue. The first amendment I am going to offer is very simple.
It deals with the issue of the North American Free Trade Agreement that
we negotiated previously. It was a terrible agreement. When we started
negotiating with Mexico and Canada, we had a small trade surplus with
Mexico. We have managed to turn that into a huge deficit. We had a
moderate trade deficit with Canada, and managed to increase that many
times over. That is the record of NAFTA.
  I am going to offer an amendment that says that investor dispute
tribunals must be opened to the public. We now have a circumstance
where when you have an investor dispute with NAFTA, a tribunal is
created. It is a three-person tribunal. It is done in secret. It is
behind closed doors. It is done in secret. The records are secret. The
testimony is in secret. The only thing known are the results.
  We ought not ever allow that to happen. My amendment is going to say
no more secrecy. My amendment is going to say if we are going to be a
part of NAFTA, the tribunals must be open. A little fresh air and
sunshine will disinfect that process. I hope this amendment will be
accepted by the Senate.
  Let me speak briefly about one of the most egregious cases being
considered by one of these tribunals. A few years ago, California
decided to eliminate MTBE from our gasoline, and other states have done
the same. We have discovered that this gasoline additive shows up in
drinking water. It is going to injure the public health.
  So California says: We have to get rid of MTBE. We will ban it from
gasoline as an additive.
  Because this country, for its own reasons, decides to stand up for
the health of its citizens, we are now being sued under the NAFTA
agreement by the Canadian company that makes MTBE. We are getting sued
for close to a billion dollars. A tribunal is hearing that case, and is
doing so in secret.
  Here we are. That is the result of trade agreements that don't pay
nearly enough attention to fairness for this country and fairness to
international trade.
  My expectation is that we will be debating this for perhaps a week or
2 weeks, with many amendments.
  I heard a rumor--I don't know whether it is true or not--that the
chairman and ranking member have reached some kind of agreement perhaps
to oppose amendments to fast track. I hope that is not the case. My
hope is--because most of us are not on the Finance Committee--that we
will be able to come to the Chamber and offer ideas perhaps they have
not thought of. I don't expect that committee has a monopoly on good
ideas.
  My expectation is that perhaps there are 80 or 85 other Members of
the Senate who might have some ideas that could be considered
meritorious and that could be added to fast-track trade authority.
  I don't support fast-track trade authority. But perhaps in the
process of amending this we can change it sufficiently so that it won't
adversely impact this country. I hope we will be able to see some
support for meritorious amendments that will be offered on the floor of
the Senate.
  There is a lot to discuss with respect to trade. I will not try to
touch on every point right now. I think we are waiting for the chairman
and ranking member to come and offer their amendments.
  But I would like to talk for a moment about another issue on trade.

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This is something that I raised with Secretary of State Colin Powell
yesterday in an appropriations hearing. It also has to do with trade.
  I fought for over 3 years on the floor of the Senate and was finally
successful last year to make it legal again to sell food to Cuba. For
40 years we have had an embargo; we couldn't sell a thing to Cuba. We
could not even sell food or medicine. My contention is that is
basically immoral for us to use food as a weapon. We sell food to
Communist China. We sell food to Communist Vietnam. But for 40 years we
couldn't sell food to Cuba.
  So I kicked and scratched for a long while with some of my
colleagues. I was able to get that aspect of the embargo changed. Just
last year, we were able to get it changed so we can actually sell food
to Cuba.
  Cuba had a hurricane recently that caused a great deal of damage, and
they need food. They are offering to buy it, and to pay cash. Cuba has
now purchased $70 million worth of food from the United States in
recent months.

  A fellow named Pedro Alvarez heads a group called Alimport, which is
the Cuban agency that buys food. He was going to come to this country
and inspect some facilities, visit a number of agricultural states,
including coming to my State of North Dakota. They were prepared to buy
wheat and dried beans, I understand.
  The State Department issued him a visa. He applied for and was given
a visa by our interest section for Cuba to come to the United States.
Yet abruptly, the visa was revoked.
  I am trying to find out why the visa was revoked. My staff called the
State Department. The State Department said: Well, it is our policy not
to encourage food sales to Cuba.
  Yesterday, I asked the Secretary of State: Is that your policy?
  The Secretary of State said: It is news to me. I have no such policy.
  Someone deep in the bowels of the State Department apparently defined
for himself the State Department's policy, and did not bother to check
with Secretary Powell.
  I asked for an investigation. Why do you revoke the visa issued to
someone who wants to come to our country to buy wheat, dried beans,
corn and eggs? Who decided that somehow that threatens our country?
Where does that kind of thinking come from?
  I expect I will probably hear from Secretary Powell in the next day
or two. I hope so. I wrote a rather lengthy letter last week. I had the
opportunity to question him before an Appropriations Committee hearing
yesterday.
  At a time when agricultural prices have collapsed and our family
farmers are hanging on by their fingertips trying to make a go of it,
we have some folks somewhere behind the drapes inside the State
Department deciding they really don't want to sell food to Cuba and
they don't want someone coming up here from Cuba to buy dried beans. If
there is some perceived threat about that, I wish someone would inform
me and the Senate.
  That is one more example of the strange approach that people take to
international trade. We ought never, under any circumstance, use food
as a weapon. It is immoral. Does anyone think Fidel Castro has ever
missed a meal because this country had an embargo for 40 years on the
shipment of food to Cuba? Does anyone think he has ever missed
breakfast, lunch, or dinner? No. Those sorts of things hurt poor
people, sick people, and hungry people. They don't hurt Fidel Castro.
  I have personally written to Mr. Alvarez saying: I am inviting you to
this country. I have written to the Secretary of State saying: I want
you to provide visas to the people who want to come up and buy food
from our family farmers.
  That is just one more piece in a long, sorry saga of international
trade that doesn't represent our country's interests.
  I am very interested in having robust, strong expanded, trade. I am
very interested in finding ways by which we can force open foreign
markets. But the record is abysmal. We agreed to NAFTA, GATT, and we do
United States-Canada agreements.
  The fact is that very little has changed in the behavior of China,
Europe, Japan, and other countries. Our country leads the way in
unilateral behavior in international trade that says our market is
open. Our country ought to use its leverage to say we are going to hold
up a mirror. If your market isn't open to us, you go sell your
trinkets, trousers, and cars somewhere else. And, as soon as you
understand that other marketplaces don't offer you what our market
does, you come back and agree to open up your marketplace to American
businesses and American workers. Then we will have reciprocal trade
that is fair to both sides, that is multilateral, and that is
beneficial to us, and the countries with whom we do trade agreements.
  I believe we are about ready to have the chairman and ranking member
come.
  I am very happy to offer an amendment as soon as they are interested
in coming. I think they have lengthy opening statements. I will also
have an opening statement at some point to amplify these remarks. But I
am anxious to offer an amendment this afternoon. I am anxious to have a
vote on an amendment, for that matter. If they come and offer their
managers' package, give their opening statements, and then let me be
recognized to offer an amendment, we could debate the amendment for an
hour and then we could have a vote today. I would be happy to do that.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The deputy majority leader.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, the Senator from North Dakota has been very
patient and persuasive, as he always is. He has been in the Chamber on
several different occasions wishing to speak. He has a lot to say about
this legislation. He has indicated he has a number of amendments. I
have spoken to him about some of the amendments. They sound pretty good
to me.
  The manager, Senator Baucus, the chairman of the Finance Committee,
should be in the Chamber soon to lay down that managers' package. I was
in touch with him just a few minutes ago. But he is not here now.

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  SA 3387. Mr. DORGAN (for himself and Mr. Craig) proposed an amendment
to amendment SA 3386 proposed by Mr. Daschle to the bill (H.R. 3009) to
extend the Andean Trade Preference Act, to grant additional trade
benefits under that Act, and for other purposes; as follows:

       At the appropriate place, insert the following:

     SEC. ____. SECRET TRIBUNALS.

       (a) Findings.--Congress makes the following findings:

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       (1) Chapter Eleven of the North American Free Trade
     Agreement ("NAFTA") allows foreign investors to file claims
     against signatory countries that directly or indirectly
     nationalize or expropriate an investment, or take measures
     "tantamount to nationalization or expropriation" of such an
     investment.
       (2) Foreign investors have filed several claims against the
     United States, arguing that regulatory activity has been
     ``tantamount to nationalization or expropriation''. Most
     notably, a Canadian chemical company claimed $970,000,000 in
     damages allegedly resulting from a California State
     regulation banning the use of a gasoline additive produced by
     that company.
       (3) A claim under Chapter Eleven of the NAFTA is
     adjudicated by a three-member panel, whose deliberations are
     largely secret.
       (4) While it may be necessary to protect the
     confidentiality of business sensitive information, the
     general lack of transparency of these proceedings has been
     excessive.
       (b) Purpose.--The purpose of this amendment is to ensure
     that the proceedings of the NAFTA investor protection
     tribunals are as transparent as possible, consistent with the
     need to protect the confidentiality of business sensitive
     information.
       (c) Chapter 11 of NAFTA.--The President shall negotiate
     with Canada and Mexico an amendment to Chapter Eleven of the
     NAFTA to ensure the fullest transparency possible with
     respect to the dispute settlement mechanism in that Chapter,
     consistent with the need to protect information that is
     classified or confidential, by--
       (1) ensuring that all requests for dispute settlement under
     Chapter Eleven are promptly made public;
       (2) ensuring that with respect to Chapter Eleven--
       (A) all proceedings, submissions, findings, and decisions
     are promptly made public; and
       (B) all hearings are open to the public; and
       (3) establishing a mechanism under that Chapter for
     acceptance of amicus curiae submissions from businesses,
     unions, and nongovernmental organizations.
       (d) Certification Requirements.--Within one year of the
     enactment of this Act, the U.S. Trade Representative shall
     certify to Congress that the President has fulfilled the
     requirements set forth in subsection (c).

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